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       * Very different perspectives of what standardisation means and implies, with several experiences focusing on reference datasets.       * Very different perspectives of what standardisation means and implies, with several experiences focusing on reference datasets.
       * There are valuable lessons from engagements with other sectors, like the April 2025 workshop with private providers of climate services. The use of the climate services components in the community interaction proved very useful.       * There are valuable lessons from engagements with other sectors, like the April 2025 workshop with private providers of climate services. The use of the climate services components in the community interaction proved very useful.
-      * NMHSs are climate services operators in the public space that develop products following the guidance provided by WMO, but many do not cover all the spaces that go all the way to the users. In this context, the CEN-CENELEC standardisation addresses all those actors that are not part of the WMO ecosystem. The question then emerges of what are the implications of these new standards for NMHSs and other public operators because the CEN-CENELEC standards will apply to all those present in the European market. Amir mentioned that WMO is not fully aware of these developments pushed by the European Commission. He suggested that it's fundamental to engage representatives from NMHSs and WMO in the process to avoid confusion among user communities with parallel developments for standardisation (from WMO's and CEN-CENELEC's sides). Amir also mentioned the existing WMO guidelines to define competences and skills of those involved in the service provision. He considered standardising human competences particularly relevant.+      * NMHSs are climate services operators in the public space that develop products following the guidance provided by WMO, but many do not cover all the spaces that go all the way to the users. In this context, the CEN-CENELEC standardisation addresses all those actors that are not part of the WMO ecosystem. The question then emerges of what are the implications of these new standards for NMHSs and other public operators because the CEN-CENELEC standards will apply to all those present in the European market. Amir mentioned that WMO is not fully aware of these developments pushed by the European Commission. He suggested that it's fundamental to engage representatives from NMHSs and WMO in the process to avoid confusion among user communities with parallel developments for standardisation (from WMO's and CEN-CENELEC's sides). 
 +      * Esteban considered useful to formulate the standards in terms of minimum requirements to assess the resources required to comply. He also mentioned that very interesting developments emerging from research projects struggle to make their way into operations at NMHSs because these institutions lack the human resources and expertise to offer them in a sustained manner. This also has to do with the resource allocation. 
 +      * Samuel Morin (Météo-France) explained that there is a struggle to define climate services. He suggested to streamline in future interactions what can be considered a climate service so that the remit is clearer. While he considers data portals an element of a climate service, he expects climate services to be close to the decision-making process. Material from past and current projects could be used to illustrate what is under discussion. 
 +      * Amir mentioned the existing WMO guidelines to define competences and skills of those involved in the service provision. He considered standardising human competences particularly relevant.
     * Note: WMO, ECMWF, KNMI, Met Office, and RHMSS are all partners of the Climateurope2 project and are often called in to represent the NMHSs' views.     * Note: WMO, ECMWF, KNMI, Met Office, and RHMSS are all partners of the Climateurope2 project and are often called in to represent the NMHSs' views.
  
   * Actions   * Actions
-    * A one-day online workshop about climate services standardisation and NMHSs will be organised by Climateurope2 in either late 2025 or early 2026. All European NMHSs will be invited to participate. It would be ideal if WMO accepted to help relaying the information to all the relevant European contacts. Support from the NMHSs already involved would be very useful to increase the engagement from other countries.+    * A one-day online workshop about climate services standardisation and NMHSs will be organised by Climateurope2 in January 2026. All European NMHSs will be invited to participate. WMO will be requested to help relaying the information to all the relevant European contacts. Support from the NMHSs already involved will be most welcome to increase the engagement from other countries. (BSC lead, all NMHSs involved, C3S, and WMO to help) 
 +    * Develop a programme for the workshop. (BSC lead, Climateurope2 partners, all NMHSs involved, C3S, and WMO to contribute) 
 +    * Suggest ideas for additional participants to the workshop. (Climateurope2 partners, all NMHSs involved, C3S, and WMO to contribute) 
 +    * Agree on a definition of what is considered a climate service for future interactions like the workshop. (BSC lead, Climateurope2 partners, all NMHSs involved, C3S, and WMO to contribute)
  
   * Presentations   * Presentations
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     * WMO's role in the Climateurope2 project (Amir Delju, WMO)     * WMO's role in the Climateurope2 project (Amir Delju, WMO)
     * {{:wiki:content:wp_8:KNMI_NMHSmeeting_June2025.pdf|Data provenance: purposes and techniques in climate services}} (Alessandro Spinuso, KNMI)     * {{:wiki:content:wp_8:KNMI_NMHSmeeting_June2025.pdf|Data provenance: purposes and techniques in climate services}} (Alessandro Spinuso, KNMI)
-    * Met Éireann climate services (Claire Scannell, Met Éireann)+    * {{:wiki:content:wp_8:climateeurope__Met_Éireann_12062025.pdf|Met Éireann climate services}} (Claire Scannell, Met Éireann)
     * {{:wiki:content:wp_8:2025-06 Meteo France Climate Services and Standardization.pdf|Météo-France climate services: From awareness to decision support}} (Sophie Martinoni-Lapierre, Météo-France)     * {{:wiki:content:wp_8:2025-06 Meteo France Climate Services and Standardization.pdf|Météo-France climate services: From awareness to decision support}} (Sophie Martinoni-Lapierre, Météo-France)
     * {{:wiki:content:wp_8:NCCS_NMHSmeeting_June2025.pdf|National Centre for Climate Services}} (Andreas Fischer, Meteoswiss)     * {{:wiki:content:wp_8:NCCS_NMHSmeeting_June2025.pdf|National Centre for Climate Services}} (Andreas Fischer, Meteoswiss)
     * Climate services at AEMET (Esteban Rodríguez, AEMET)     * Climate services at AEMET (Esteban Rodríguez, AEMET)